Comments on: Let’s not forget what was killing us before the Internet http://www.wmhartnett.com/2008/05/19/lets-not-forget-what-was-killing-us-before-the-internet/ Journalism, the future of newspapers, and cat pictures. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:55:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Mr Vocabulary Builder http://www.wmhartnett.com/2008/05/19/lets-not-forget-what-was-killing-us-before-the-internet/#comment-2632 Mr Vocabulary Builder Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:45:38 +0000 http://www.wmhartnett.com/?p=1053#comment-2632 I too have cut out any paper delivery. I read magazines and take my news on the web. Yet, I miss the newspapers but their coverage is, as you say, thin. The ads are overwhelming and the bulkiness of the paper makes it a pain. When in Europe, I always get the slim pleasant Herald Tribune, despite the price. Go figure. I too have cut out any paper delivery. I read magazines and take my news on the web. Yet, I miss the newspapers but their coverage is, as you say, thin. The ads are overwhelming and the bulkiness of the paper makes it a pain. When in Europe, I always get the slim pleasant Herald Tribune, despite the price. Go figure.

]]> By: May 2008’s Most-Popular links from my link library list: Relevance, context and culture, angryJournalist, the future web : Joe Think » Online News Blog Archive http://www.wmhartnett.com/2008/05/19/lets-not-forget-what-was-killing-us-before-the-internet/#comment-2400 May 2008’s Most-Popular links from my link library list: Relevance, context and culture, angryJournalist, the future web : Joe Think » Online News Blog Archive Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:03:22 +0000 http://www.wmhartnett.com/?p=1053#comment-2400 [...] Let’s not forget what was killing us before the Internet [...] [...] Let’s not forget what was killing us before the Internet [...]

]]> By: The Journalism Iconoclast » Journalism is killing itself with shallow coverage http://www.wmhartnett.com/2008/05/19/lets-not-forget-what-was-killing-us-before-the-internet/#comment-2368 The Journalism Iconoclast » Journalism is killing itself with shallow coverage Tue, 20 May 2008 14:20:49 +0000 http://www.wmhartnett.com/?p=1053#comment-2368 [...] William M. Hartnett writes that his brother and sister-in-law were reporters in a top-50 market up until a few years ago. Yet, even they don’t subscribe to the daily newspaper anymore: All of which is to say that they were not driven away from the printed newspaper by disruptive digital technologies, at least not primarily. No, they were driven away by our industry’s old problem, the one that was killing us before we found a more convenient villain online: We’re boring. Predictable. Thin in our coverage, and often intellectually lazy and shallow. [...] [...] William M. Hartnett writes that his brother and sister-in-law were reporters in a top-50 market up until a few years ago. Yet, even they don’t subscribe to the daily newspaper anymore: All of which is to say that they were not driven away from the printed newspaper by disruptive digital technologies, at least not primarily. No, they were driven away by our industry’s old problem, the one that was killing us before we found a more convenient villain online: We’re boring. Predictable. Thin in our coverage, and often intellectually lazy and shallow. [...]

]]> By: The Modern Journalist » Blog Archive » Killing News (Softly) With Boredom http://www.wmhartnett.com/2008/05/19/lets-not-forget-what-was-killing-us-before-the-internet/#comment-2367 The Modern Journalist » Blog Archive » Killing News (Softly) With Boredom Tue, 20 May 2008 13:49:26 +0000 http://www.wmhartnett.com/?p=1053#comment-2367 [...] Hartnett, the online innovations editor at the Palm Beach Post, has written a piece address exactly this problem: All of which is to say that they were not driven away from the [...] [...] Hartnett, the online innovations editor at the Palm Beach Post, has written a piece address exactly this problem: All of which is to say that they were not driven away from the [...]

]]> By: Brad King http://www.wmhartnett.com/2008/05/19/lets-not-forget-what-was-killing-us-before-the-internet/#comment-2366 Brad King Tue, 20 May 2008 13:25:31 +0000 http://www.wmhartnett.com/?p=1053#comment-2366 When I was building a daily news site at a magazine (Technology Review), we constantly discussed the organization in these terms: The online should exist without any content from the magazine -- although we should have one staff writing both. The magazine should be thought of as a slower, premium product that does what the Web can't do; and the Web should be the faster, daily product that does what a magazine can't do. Consequently, we build one product line -- in two mediums -- that have grown along side each other. Which always made perfect sense to us (and we luckily pulled it off). I think sometimes we overthink the world a bit too much. When I was building a daily news site at a magazine (Technology Review), we constantly discussed the organization in these terms:

The online should exist without any content from the magazine — although we should have one staff writing both.

The magazine should be thought of as a slower, premium product that does what the Web can’t do; and the Web should be the faster, daily product that does what a magazine can’t do.

Consequently, we build one product line — in two mediums — that have grown along side each other.

Which always made perfect sense to us (and we luckily pulled it off). I think sometimes we overthink the world a bit too much.

]]> By: john q homescholer http://www.wmhartnett.com/2008/05/19/lets-not-forget-what-was-killing-us-before-the-internet/#comment-2365 john q homescholer Tue, 20 May 2008 12:16:13 +0000 http://www.wmhartnett.com/?p=1053#comment-2365 Bill - This is so true. And it's only the tip of the iceberg. Newspapers have been in decline for a long time. Radio and then TV hurt them. In the 60s & 70s, we lost the evening newspaper. Newspapers declined for a lot of reasons over the last 50 years: the Internet is only the latest step in their decline. Keep exploring the topic please. Bill - This is so true. And it’s only the tip of the iceberg. Newspapers have been in decline for a long time. Radio and then TV hurt them. In the 60s & 70s, we lost the evening newspaper. Newspapers declined for a lot of reasons over the last 50 years: the Internet is only the latest step in their decline. Keep exploring the topic please.

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